Residents opposed to Cadboro-Gyro Park Pickleball Court

Hello Eric Dahli,

I believe you are currently the President of the Caboro Bay Residents Association. My name is Caroline Lawrence. I live at 2646Killarney Rd. The Notification of the Cadboro-Gyro Park Tennis Court Replacement was dropped in my mailbox the other day,  June 25th 2019. My concern is this is also the announcement of a Pickleball court, in which myself and many neighbors in our area are very much against!

Myself and a number of neighbors have been in touch with Saanich expressing our concern against the pickleball court. Saanich informed us that The Caboro Bay Residents Association in consultation with Saanich Parks gave their approval of the Pickleball court.

My questions to you are:

  1. Why is the  Caboro Bay Residents Association in favor of a Pickleball court ?
  2. Is the Caboro Bay Residents Association aware of the devistating effects of Pickleball to the local residents ? Can I be given the opportunity to educate on all the aspects of Pickleball to the community.
  3. Would the Caboro Bay Residents Association be willing to reevaluate their endorsement of the Pickleball court and hopefully retract their support? It is frustrating to hear your association provided an endorsement when no effort was made to consult with your residence who will be directly affected?

Please see below my email sent to Saanich with support of numorous neighbors. I would love the opportunity to speak with you once you have read though this information.

Many thanks for your time and consideration.

I have  bcc Killarney Rr and Beachview Pl neighbors in this email so as to keep everyone up to date on this issue.



June 26, 2019

RE: Cadboro-Gyro Park Tennis Court Replacement. Notification to Saanich Residents

Cc           Gary Darrah

              Suzanne Samborski

              Eva Riccius

              Andrew Burger

              Cadboro Bay Residents Association

My name is Caroline Lawrence. I live at 2646Killarney Rd. The Notification of the Tennis Court Replacement was dropped in my mailbox yesterday June 25th 2019.My concern is this is also the announcement of a Pickleball court, in which I am very much against.

I have communicated to Sannich – Park Planning, Design and Development the following. I am also distributing this information, locally in efforts to educate my neighbors and community

Pickleball is a very loud, aggravating, tedious, repetitive sound! Much louder and a more striking constant sound than that of a tennis ball.  The back of my property and much the same of many of my neighbors is no more than 10 paces to this court. My concerns of this proposed pickelball court are as follows:

Noise:The noise concern of this is VERY real! Not only would it be horrendous for the neighbors, but having this sound right next to the water would make it carry across the beach and entire bay. All the local residents and community users trying to enjoy a quite evening at the beach from one side to the other would be inundated with the repetitive smack of the ball. Please view the following link to prove my very real concerns.

Why Are Your Pickleball Courts Receiving Complaints from …

2018-04-25· We recommend that pickleball courts to be located within 500 to 600 feet of residential properties or other noise sensitive areas be reviewed by an acoustical engineer during the site selection phase in order to avoid choosing a site that is expensive to mitigate, results in unexpected limitations on court use, or leads to ongoing disputes with neighbors.

Parking: Opposed to two people, maximum four people per tennis court. A pickle ball court brings up to 12 people. Bringing many more vehicles to an already over crowed Gyro parking lot.

Tennis Players and Pickleball players DO NOT live in harmony:  If pickleball is being played on one court, tennis players WILL NOT play on the other court, due to the noise and the excess of extra bodies around the court. Effectively leaving the other court useless.

Proven Pervious Problems and Concerns: Recently the Pickleball courts at Carnarvon in Oak Bay have had numerous complaints. To the point that one resident was forced to sell his home due to the noise.  Another neighbor is unable to enjoy their outside property and cannot sell their house due to the pickle ball noise for over a year! In efforts of finding an alternative location, the municipality of Oak Bay proposed moving the pickle ball court to the Windsor court. In the last Oak Bay Council meeting just last week, this was rejected due to massive neighborhood pushback in the Windsor area.

Rules and Regulations: What plans does Saanich have to regulate the times of this court usage? Currently Saanich Pickelball signage states 9am-9pm. This would be disastrous!! My son’s bedroom is on the backyard side of the house and his bedtime is 8pm.How would he go to sleep? It’s hot in the summer and he needs a window open!! Oak Bay regulates the times of their pickle ball courts to 9am- 6pmand from 4-6pm a softball usage is required. Would Saanich do this? How would Saanich enforce this?? Would Saanich guarantee to send a parks staff to the court 7 days a week at 9am, 4pm and 6pm?? Please see photos attached.

Need is already meet:  Why does Saanich need another pickle ball court? There are already 15 pickelball courts in suitable areas of Saanich.

The Cadboro Bay – Gyro Beach area is not a suitable demographic area for this sport! I realize that the Pickelball community is big and there is a need for a place for them to play but this has already been met with 15 courts. Tennis is also continuing to grow and I caution the municipality in taking away too many tennis courts.  

I strongly feel Cadboro Bay is not a good fit for a pickleball court. I plan to educate and inform all residents in the local area to send in their concerns with this proposed court and the sound travelling over the water will affect every resident around the bay.

Caroline Lawrence

2646 Killarney Rd


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